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GovernmentAnonymous writes ""The United States military is an organization of paid killers...."     (Peace post of 24 August)


Please identify for me a military which does not fit that description.

I know that Peace and other progressives looking upon the military with distain and try to use them as a global "meal on wheels" while experimenting on them with all their wacky social engineering ideas. All of this in addition to Obama's drastic reductions in their efficiency and effectiveness is putting the US in danger. This is particularly true with regard to Russia and China.

Russia has invaded Ukraine and China is flexing its muscles in the far east even going so far as to aggressively buzz one of our planes in international air space. Neither Russia nor China respect Obama or fear anything he might do and that lack of respect and fear puts the US in danger. Both countries are aggressively advancing their territorial aspirations and conquests. How far this will go under Obama is a good question.

Allowing Obama two more years to destroy the US military might be their plan so when they go full force with their territorial aggression it will be the next president's fault. Will that be Hillary? Hopefully not! However, as I have said many times over the years, I do not minimize the Republicans ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory so anything is possible. 

Assuming the continued downgrading of our military, a Republican president in 2016 and a Russian and/or Chinese military expansion I know the leftist media will blame the Republican president just as they blames Bush for 9/11 when the entire stage for that catastrophe was set by Clinton. Never forget the "Gorelick Wall" which forbad the sharing of vital information between and among the FBI, CIA and other organizations which prevented these organizations from putting all the information together which could have prevented 9/11!

In the convoluted thinking of progressives like Peace the fact that the US has some negative baggage in its history we can never out live those negatives. Everything we have done which is positive, such as saving the world in WWI, WWII and the cold war plus all of our humanitarian efforts can never minimize, much less erase, those negative marks. Any good the US does must always be downgraded with references to the past. 

The same is true with Republican and Conservative individuals and their treatment by progressives. No Republican or Conservative can ever atone for their mistakes. Take Strom Thurmand for example - He opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and was a segregationist. He was never able to live down these negatives from his past regardless of what he did thereafter. On his 100th birthday Trent Lott praised his service to the country and was excoriated by the press. 

On the contrary take Robert Byrd - not only was Byrd as much of a segregationist as Thurmund he too voted against eh Civil Rights Act of 1964. On top of that Byrd was a high ranking official of the KKK for decades and undoubtedly responsible, if not directly then indirectly, for many criminal activities against blacks and other minorities. When Byrd died in 2010, Obama and Clinton praised his service. Neither of them were excoriated for that praise by the leftist press.

Republican Thurmund was never able to live down his past while democrat Byrd was more than able to because the left is most forgiving of its own and never forgives the opposition, Republicans and Conservatives. Just look at the recent racist comments by democrat Filthy Harry Reid while speaking to the Asian Chamber of Commerce. If those things were said by a Republican or Conservative it would shave been headline news for weeks and probably months along with endless demand for that individual's resignation from any and all public and political positions. 

However,  because these things were said by a democrat all that was necessary was for an apology to be made and all is forgiven. Similar racist comments were made by that idiot Joe Biden leading up to Obama's first run at the presidency when he said that Obama was clean, articulate and didn't have a "negro" accent! Of course Biden also said that one has to have an Indian accent to work a 7-11 and other racist and bigoted comments for decades. But, that's just Joe as far as progressives are concerned so he is never held to the same standards as anyone from the right.

In other news we find that ISIS has murdered some 250 Syrians soldiers recently captured forcing them to undress before lining them up and shooting them. This action certainly brings back memories of the nazis. What is Obama's strategy for dealing with ISIS?

Obama announced today, 8/28, that he has no strategy for dealing with ISIS.

Doesn't that just fill you with confidence? We are certainly facing serious trouble and all we get is a vote of "PRESENT" from Obama! So much for electing an empty suit with a resume the thickness of which can hardly be measures in nanometers!

Russell Brand, one of Peace's idols, recently let us all see the real racism that he tries to hide. In a rant from the back seat of a limo he attacked Jason Riley, author of the book Please stop helping us, because he doesn't live in a black neighborhood, doesn't sound like he's black and doesn't act black. To racists such as Brand for blacks to speak eloquently is acting white. That must also apply to Obama since Biden said he doesn't speak with a negro accent, unless he needs to! 

Recently Brand's former spouse, Katy Perry said she doesn't need a man. After dealing with Brand it is no wonder she feels that way. Apparently he notified her that he wanted a divorce via, email, a twit or on Facebook, I forget which. He is most certainly a loser!
Doc Bill


Posted by hostmaster on Friday, August 29 @ 06:07:00 EDT (23 reads)
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 Christianity v Islam

GovernmentAnonymous writes "First I would like to commend those muslims who have voiced their concern over and condemnation of ISIS. It is about time we hear from those who refer to themselves as moderates. However, there are still far too many who remain silent.

In a previous post, 13 August, Peace claims that I see that muslim=bad and Christian=good. Considering what is going on in the world today this isn't too far from being 100% true. I am not giving the way Christianity was forced upon people in the past millennium a pass for their ferocity by any means.

Christ's mandate to his Apostles was to go out and preach the truth. There was no mandate to force people to believe, that was up to each individual to accept of not. Unfortunately, zealots eventually went far beyond what was required. I suppose we could go back to Constantine and his vision of The Cross. Constantine went from a pagan to Christian literally overnight and just as the Pagan Roman Empire persecuted Christians it now persecuted those who were not Christian. Such zealotry is to be condemned no matter where it is found.

Anyway, there is no doubt that the history of persecution BY CHRISTIANS, from Constantine to the Inquisition an beyond, is also to be condemned for its brutality and inhumanity. That fallible humans have misinterpreted the teachings of Christ does not constitute a mark against what Christ stood for. Christianity is a religion of peace - "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." Those who have not lived by this commandment form Christ himself are the evil ones not Christ or the religion founded on his teachings.

With islam there is a difference. First and foremost there is no combining the two as some are trying to do with the development of "Chrislam." Why? Simply because islam does not recognize Christ as the Son of God! That alone is sufficient to keep the two separated. Besides that, according to muslim interpretation of their prophets writings those chapters which come later in the koran hold precedence over the former ones. While some of the former passages speak about "people of the book," that book being the Bible and the people are the Jews and Christians, being believers later passages call for the murder of Jews and Christians who refuse to convert to islam. 

It appears that these are the passages which radical, islamofascist groups such as ISIS, hamas, hezbolla and others use for their justification to eliminate Israel, the Jews, the Christians and all others who refuse to convert.

Christianity's dark past must never be forgotten so we never repeat it and islam's current dark record must also not be forgotten for the same reason. If muslims can bring their religion to the 21st century and reject all those parts of the koran that call for the conquering and conversion of the whole world then their beliefs will be acceptable to the world. There is much good that muslims did in the past. They were the source for much learning while Europeans lived in squaller and ignorance. But, now it seems that muslims live in that same squaller and ignorance while the world has passed them by on all other fronts.

It is up to them to change the image of their beliefs and religion, not us. Until they do so those who are constantly on the attack will be the standard bearers for their beliefs and the vast majority of people on this planet will have no regard for them.

Finally, to the irrational moron who denigrates my comments about ISIS wanting to fly their flag over the White House, just remember that Chuck Hagel recently said that Isis is "beyond anything we've seen." The palestinian flag was recently hoisted atop the Brooklyn Bridge. Texas Representative Ted Poe believes that ISIS and the Mexican drug cartels are communicating and considering the porous nature of the southern border ISIS operatives would have little difficulty sneaking into the country. Texas Governor Perry warns that they may already be here!

Considering that the islamofascist bastard who murdered Foley had a British accent and an American already blew himself up over there and that far too many mosques ion America spout the islamofascist doctrine we must not be blind to the threats of such a group. They are far more capable of doing everything the say while most leaders agree that they already are far stronger and better situated to accomplish their terrorist agenda than al-quaeda was 13 years ago.

So, you can keep your head in the sand believing that they are the JV but the reality of the situation is just the opposite.
Doc Bill

Posted by hostmaster on Friday, August 22 @ 08:15:01 EDT (38 reads)
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GovernmentAnonymous writes "I bet 'ol peace was creamin' his jeans when he heard about the American being beheaded by the ISIS (Islamic) skum. What color are they peace, white? Speaking of color, what white mob has been killing blacks? Fill us all in on that would ya? Oh I see, thats what you wish was happening, not what really is, I get it, you just make it up as you go to match your view of things. Kind of like...a fantasy...a dream(wet in your case)...a vision...a prophesy...a wish.

Posted by hostmaster on Thursday, August 21 @ 06:39:04 EDT (40 reads)
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 Darkness Falls and Seasons Change

GovernmentAnonymous writes ""We'll see summer come again!"

Obama was an important symbol historically, the power structure didn't let him do very much, he was clearly in over his head, or Democrats really are just actors playing a role, they provide a slightly more palatable rhetoric as they bomb and help the rich get richer relative to the rest of the society. 

May there be justice in Ferguson, Missouri [as white mobs continue to murder black males as they've done all through American history.  A police force of mostly whites basically occupying Black American neighborhoods throughout America terrorizing black people ... and militarized now!  Yay!  I love violent white men with guns and badges running around my community!  Makes me feel so safe!  As they fire weapons which violate the Chemical Weapons Convention because "tear gas" is outlawed in war.  But it's okay if you're dispersing peaceful protesters in the streets of America.]

... and other such speeches Obama didn't give. 


P.S.  A "police force" and all the propagandistic treatment of police forces in our society ... akin to our sickening glorification of all things "military."  These people are psychotic white men and anyone else they can hire to run around with guns being violent and authoritarian with people.  Imperialism abroad and police repression at home.  America is a very aggressive nation ... and a police force is still just a mob of gun-toting white guys paid to violently protect the property and power structure in U.S. society Land of the Free and Home of the Brave, Inc.


Posted by hostmaster on Tuesday, August 19 @ 08:20:51 EDT (55 reads)
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 RE: Peace and other things

GovernmentAnonymous writes "Anyone with any basic knowledge of history understands that no civilization which has preceded us can measure up to our standards. For the most part they were all barbaric and condoned standards that the vast majority of us find reprehensible. 

Go back as far as our records indicate and you find slavery, wars of conquest, significant class distinctions and unrest if not warfare and much worse. The Bible is replete with wars of conquest not only by the Israelites but against them. The Egyptians, the Babylonians, the Assyrians, the Philistines, the Greeks, the Romans and others did the same things. Even on this side of the Atlantic things were not better. The Incas conquered other tribes enslaving untold numbers and subjugating the rest. The Mayans did the same as did the Aztecs. In the latter case it is precisely because the Aztecs were such vicious masters that the subjugated tribes joined with the Spanish to overthrow them.

The Indians of what is now the US and Canada were no better. Oh, the econazis would have us believe that the American Indians lived peaceful lives, never bothered other tribes and lived in complete harmony with the land. This is part of the progressive utopian myth and it far from reality. The numerous tribes fought against each other for centuries in their efforts to get as much of the available resources for themselves. They even enslaved members of other tribes. Sure, there was the Iroquois Confederacy which managed to maintain more or less peaceful relationships between the Six Nations as there were other treaties between various tribes some of which lasted for long periods while others were routinely broken.

Even the French and Indians war didn't actually change much in terms of the rivalries between the various Indian Nations. The weapons were, of course, modernized but the tribe were still acting on old grudges with their new alliances. Peace and other no doubt attribute all of the animus in these instances to the white man but there was plenty of animus between tribes to go around. 

It is a fact that the vast majority of native people in the Americas died as a result of diseases that were inadvertently introduced by colonists. I'm not ignoring the purposeful and murderous contamination of tribes by some but by then the greatest damage had been done. One must never lose sight of the fact that Columbus wasn't the first the reach the Americas and though those previous adventurers aren't as well know it was inevitable that the Americas would be discovered.

If Columbus hadn't discovered the Americas when he did someone else would have. Suppose it had taken another 100 years to discover the Americans, would the disastrous effects of disease been less? Far from it. It would have been at least as bad if not worse and combined with an even greater disparity between the technological aspects of the two sides things would have been far worse for the natives. It is unlikely that the Native Americans would have progressed much farther than they were in the 15th century by the 16th century or even later.

I guess Peace is saying that it was the opening of Japan in the mid 1800's that caused them to be the bastards they were a century later. Do not forget that prior to this time Japan was a feudal society with the vast majority of the people having no rights. The various portions of the country were run by the leaders of these domains and their rule was enforced by the Samurai. The Samurai began losing power in the mid 1800's, coinciding with the opening. It was actually a return to the "good ole days" of the Samurai that brought about the atrocities of which I spoke. So, reminiscing about the past isn't good in this case as things were far worse for the average person.

So, when I said that we cannot evaluate the past based upon the values and mores of today Peace and anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of history should understand what I meant. Of course, I do not expect Peace to acknowledge this just as he will not acknowledge his numerous losses to me. But, though is serves little purpose to evaluate past civilizations with today's values, standards and mores we must never forget that it is important to avoid their most reprehensible aspects. 

The fact that all past civilizations had their dark side should never be lost on us today. By ignoring such negative aspects of anything will inevitably result in us repeating them. We see such a repetition in the anti-Semitic rhetoric coming out of Europe and some area here in reference to the current problems in the Middle East. ISIS and other islamofascist groups all have the same objective - the total destruction of Israel, the killing of every Jew and the destruction of America and the subjugation of everyone on the planet to their interpretation of islam. 

In other matters we find that the governor of Texas has been indicted for doing his job. Should this case ever reach the conclusion that the democrats want then every governor AND THE PRESIDENT could be indicted for threatening to veto any legislation. Obama will be in terrible trouble if this comes to pass as he has threatened to veto legislation many times.

As for the whack job who posted some irrational thoughts pretending to be me - I do not hate progressives. I know you cannot understand this as you whole world is filled with hate, especially for things you do not understand. And, there is a hell of a lot that you do not understand. As for the islamofascist bastards coming here it is they who say they will. They are undoubtedly here now waiting to attack. We have an untold number of American Citizens fighting in the Middle East and if and when they return they could begin the fight here. Fortunately one of them, from Florida, blew himself up over there so he would be among them. But, have no doubt many crossing our southern border are not here to work, they are here to cause problems either as members of MS-13 and other gangs or part of the islamofascist goal of destroying the US and flying that black flag over the White House.
Doc Bill

Posted by hostmaster on Monday, August 18 @ 07:19:24 EDT (60 reads)
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 Re: White Flag and Japan

GovernmentAnonymous writes "Yeah I'll explain it for you (and I do teach so f*** you).  Japan had been isolated for much of its history.  In the middle of the 19th century, the West penetrated Japan and "opened" it, this is pretty standard history (ya know 1853, Commodore Perry).  Now, if you look at paragraph 3 from   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Japan, you'll read

"In the 1860s the Meiji Period began and the new national leadership systematically ended feudalism and transformed an isolated, underdeveloped island country, into a world power that closely followed Western models." [my emphasis added]."

So yes, Japan was emulating the West, learning how to be an imperial power, I knew that when I was like 12, sorry you don't have rudimentary knowledge of Japanese history.  And I never stated anything about the level of Japanese atrocities during this period relative to the West, that is your conjecture.  And no, Japan wouldn't have become an industrial imperial nation if it hadn't been following the Western example.  You'll also read that during the Meiji Restoration,

"the military was modernized, and numerous Western institutions were adopted- including a Western legal system and quasi-parliamentary constitutional government as outlined in the Meiji Constitution ... modelled on the constitution of the German Empire." [German-Japanese relationship dates back to the 1870's, did not begin with Hitler].

Furthermore, under the section titled "Economic Modernization," you'll find:

"Japan's industrial revolution began about 1870 as national leaders decided to catch up with the West. The government built railroads, improved roads, and inaugurated a land reform program to prepare the country for further development. Modern industry first appeared in textiles, including cotton and especially silk, which was based in home workshops in rural areas.  The government inaugurated a new Western-based education system for all young people, sent thousands of students to the United States and Europe, and hired more than 3,000 Westerners to teach modern science, mathematics, technology, and foreign languages in Japan (O-yatoi gaikokujin).In 1871 a group of Japanese politicians known as the Iwakura Mission toured Europe and the USA to learn western ways. The result was a deliberate state-led industrialisation policy to enable Japan to quickly catch up. The Bank of Japan, founded in 1877, used taxes to fund model steel and textile factories. Education was expanded and Japanese students were sent to study in the West."

Still laughing your ass off?

Now, for the Doctor.  First of all I have never lost an argument to you despite your assertions to the contrary pontificating on your own behalf.  

I actually started laughing this morning at the juxtaposition of your continued insistence on referring to "Japs" because of atrocities committed from ca. 1870-1945 with the immediately following statement "With regard to the Philippines, Peace would have us evaluate the actions of the past based on the values and mores of today."  YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!!!!!  So the Japanese empire can be held to whatever standards you impose, but the American empire cannot be burdened with similar standards?  Nowhere have I defended or minimized Japanese atrocities.  The Japanese empire committed horrific crimes as did the Western nations it modelled itself after.  But they were Japanese atrocities, not "Jap" atrocities.  Again, you seem to be missing what I think is a very simple point: imperial nations which commit atrocities whether Japan, the United States, or whomever should not be condemned in racist terms.  It's ok to harshly condemn Japan's treatment of its victims in China, Korea and elsewhere without resorting to racism or ethnic slurs.  Or if you insist on going there, why isn't the standard the same across the board?  American imperialists committed major atrocities during the same period as Japanese imperialism (and American imperialism, beginning with the Native American genocide and extending right through the present, just as a matter of fact, has certainly a longer duration on the planet than the gruesome period of Japanese imperialism.)  Again, you're confusing two different things.  The Nazi SS, the Waffen SS ... those are not ethnic terms, "Jap" is.  You can refer to brutal Japanese imperialists, or use the names they used for their military divisions ... you can do that without resorting to racism or ethnic slur.

Furthermore, I despise ISIS, just to make that clear, I don't know any decent human regardless of political philosophy who regards ISIS as anything other than a brutal, heinous, awful organization.  Hamas, which I am critical of for its religious orientation, some of its crude formulations regarding Israel, its brutality against its own people, its stupid counterproductive violent tactics, some actions which have been terroristic in nature [though it is facing a US-backed Israeli state that if we're going to be serious has its own terror policies].  But Hamas is not ISIS.  Doc's attempt to lump in Palestinian resistance and struggle for national liberation with ISIS is unjustified in my view.

And I don't wish to come up with a slur for Americans.  That's my point, we can condemn crimes against humanity, imperial slaughter and the like without the racism.  [though "Yankee" seems to be somewhat mild compared to "Jap"]



Posted by hostmaster on Friday, August 15 @ 07:03:16 EDT (57 reads)
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GovernmentAnonymous writes "Quote from Peace's last rant......"Ok, so when Japan did it's east Asian imperial thing in the decades leading up to WWII attempting to emulate the Western imperial powers after the "opening of Japan" in the late 19th century". Could you please explain just wtf that is supposed to mean you moron?  LMAO   Apparently Japan was just emulating the west, so its not as bad as the west doing it?  Japan wouldnt have done it if the west hadn't already?  LMFAO, thank god you don't actually teach.

Posted by hostmaster on Thursday, August 14 @ 06:20:54 EDT (52 reads)
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 RE: The Sexist Pig

GovernmentAnonymous writes "The real croc here is your post. When I started posting on the other site some 7 years ago I started by just expressing my point of view along with giving facts. I was answered with vile responses that had nothing to do with the issues at hand. I explained that I would reply in kind if they continued and so they did. Therefore I gave back to my progressive opponents as much or more than they gave to me.

The emperor did not like that I responded in kind and since he was unable to counter my facts he took the coward's way out by banning me for the remainder of 2012. Theoretically I was eligible to post again in January 2013, but I have never been back. That site is now quite pathetic with the emperor's sycophants all boringly agreeing on the issues, at least when anyone bothers to post. 

Peace used to debate me over there, losing every time I might add. Since he had no one to debate he came here where he still loses. You say I "twist in the wind" when confronted with opposing arguments? PROVE IT! Go to the archives and find where I have "twisted in the wind" and show me and the other readers. Be specific citing the posts titles, dates posted and authors, if any listed. 

You will not do this because all you are doing is repeating a typical progressives mantra to discredit me without any facts to back you up. 

By the way, why are you so afraid of Sarah Palin? 

I looked back to 6 August, the last day one can view without going to the archives and I didn't find any reference by me to her. Therefore she must be on your mind and the thought of her terrifies you. Sarah Palin is not a major actor in the political circle right now. OH, sure, she's out there doing her thing but she's mostly talking to the choir so what is your problem? The same is true with former VP Cheney. 

Since you seem to believe that I will go away if you ignore me why then did you have to open your big uninformed mouth and post your drivel? I also challenge you to show where I am fomenting hate and anger! Sure, you hate what I have to say, you hate the facts I provide and you hate me because you get angry over the fact that neither you or any of your comrades can successfully debate me with facts and win. 

Yes, I refer to you people as progressives and I explained that label long ago, I know it bothers you just as liberals used to hate being called liberal. I may even throw in idiot, moron, brain dead, comrade, sycophant but these are more accurately descriptors than simple names. But, have it your way and look at them as names I call you. None of them compare to the vile crap you progressives throw at me. 

Back in 2008, I promised to treat Obama with the same respect you progressives treated Bush. I believe I have fulfilled that promise. You do not like what I have to say about Obama because it is the truth but to you I must hate Obama because he's black. The second black president. Remember, Clinton was declared to be the first black president. 

Are we better off because of Obama? HELL NO! The economy is fluttering along anemically, family incomes are lower than in 2008, gas is doubled, electricity costs are skyrocketing, food costs more, full time work appears to be something that only history will talk about as the vast majority of new jobs are part-time, the world no longer respects us and MOST IMPORTANTLY OUR ENEMIES NO LONGER FEAR US!

Hillary has lots of baggage you refuse to recognize. Her claim to fame as First Lady was being head of the BIMBO ERUPTION TEAM, She did nothing as our senator and as Secretary of State she was an utter failure. Just look at the state of affairs world wide now not to mention Benghazi. If the people are dumb enough to elect her as president the country is doomed. Oh, I'm fairly sure she would have been better than Obama but she must deal with her contributions or lack thereof under his administration.

Finally, you post shows that you are nothing more than a sexist pig who probably is living a life of envy and who has to attack others anonymously to feel important.
Doc Bill 

Posted by hostmaster on Tuesday, August 12 @ 06:57:18 EDT (49 reads)
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 Ed the Lion

GovernmentAnonymous writes "I cant believe some moron on the "other" site thinks Ed should run for mayor. Come on, he owns an open forum web site, spouts his own asinine opinions occasionally (in red) and that's basically it. What would make anyone think he is qualified to be mayor based on that? Have you ever actually read his comments? The man has serious issues.

Posted by hostmaster on Monday, August 11 @ 07:31:33 EDT (53 reads)
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 Peace 8-8-14

GovernmentAnonymous writes "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japs  The explanation for "Jap" is here.  Somebody Jewish is a Jew.  Somebody Japanese is Japanese, not "Jap."  Jew is proper usage to describe somebody of Jewish descent, Jap is not proper usage to describe somebody of Japanese descent.  For a complete list of what you call people from various countries please see:   http://www.geography-site.co.uk/pages/countries/demonyms.html

Most of the Filipinos the Americans slaughtered from 1898 on were not Muslim extremists, or Muslims at all.  https://history.state.gov/milestones/1899-1913/war  They were Roman Catholics.  The Spanish conquered the Philippines in the 1500s and over the course of more than 300 years the population converted to Roman Catholicism.  Today approximately 90% of Filipinos are Christians and 10% are Muslims.  Mark Twain wrote eloquently about U.S. atrocities in the Philippines under General Leonard Wood, specifically the Moro Crater Massacre in which American soldiers slaughtered 600 Muslim Moro villagers (many women and children) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moro_Crater_massacre

I'm not going to get into the whole nuclear bomb/Japan thing.  Many prominent Americans opposed the decision then (Eisenhower among them), many studies done at the time concluded the bombs were not necessary to end the war (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Strategic_Bombing_Survey#Atomic_bombing and the conclusion "Based on a detailed investigation of all the facts, and supported by the testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders involved, it is the Survey's opinion that certainly prior to 31 December 1945, and in all probability prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated."), and there is voluminous scholarship on the issue, much of it very recent, supporting the idea that the bombs were unnecessary and immoral (http://www.counterpunch.org/2008/08/06/the-atomic-bombing-of-japan/; http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/08/05/the-decision-to-bomb-hiroshima/).

Furthermore, Gaza is one of if not the most densely populated places on planet Earth.  There ain't too many places where civilians are not present, most of them refugees or the descendants of refugees ethnically cleansed from what became southern Israel.  The entire rhetoric of human shields and Hamas responsibility for civilian casualties is straight Israeli propaganda.  Amnesty International recently issued a report describing deliberate Israeli attacks on medical professionals in Gaza which constitute war crimes   http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/mounting-evidence-deliberate-attacks-gaza-health-workers-israeli-army-2014-08-07.  No independent evidence exists that Hamas uses human shields in Gaza http://www.commondreams.org/news/2014/08/07/netanyahu-urges-us-lawmakers-defend-israel-against-icc-war-crimes-prosecution; Human Rights Watch has now do*****ented cases in which Israel fired on civilians fleeing the violence and stated that "deliberate attacks on civilians who are not participating in the fighting are war crimes."  And Hamas didn't start the war; Israel did.  Israel blamed Hamas without evidence for the kidnapping and killing of 3 Israeli settler teenagers and a series of Israeli provocations finally resulted in Hamas firing glorified fireworks into Israel (called "rockets" in Western discourse to exaggerate the primitive Hamas projectiles).  See http://normanfinkelstein.com/, particularly the 46 minute interview during which Finkelstein exhaustively analyzes and contextualizes the latest Israeli massacre in Gaza.

Finally, to the post in which the person claims I only focus on American atrocities I ask why wouldn't an American citizen focus on American atrocities?  As citizens of this country we are obligated to address our own crimes and to work democratically to build a better America in which the leaders we elect do not commit those sorts of crimes.  This is something Chomsky has written about for decades.  What is the moral content for an American to berate some other society for crimes and atrocities they commit?  We should focus on ourselves and be good citizens of the world.  That is our primary responsibility.



Posted by hostmaster on Saturday, August 09 @ 07:57:35 EDT (64 reads)
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 Oswego, the World, etc.

GovernmentAnonymous writes "Hey man if you like the old format go ahead and write something.  We do have control over all the issues Doc and I write about, it's called democracy, citizenship ... theoretically, in a democratic society, we the people have control over the issues that impact our lives.  Since the United States has been running a global empire since the middle of the last century, all of these issues are directly relevant to the citizens of Oswego, NY and any other part of the United States.  The fact that the potential transfer station closure issue is in the news is a perfect example of what corporate capitalism and wealth concentration in the hands of the superrich is doing all over this country.  Here and elsewhere public services are being gutted in order to subsidize extreme wealth in the hands of the few.  Since the rich do not pay adequate taxes, since the rich hide their money in the Cayman Islands, since our economic system inevitably produces cir*****stances whereby the rich have all the money, since the Middle Class is being systematically destroyed by Democrats, Republicans and their corporate sponsors, things like transfer stations and road repairs and grass cutting and fire departments and all the horse**** you'd rather I focus my attention on are chronically underfunded.  Everything I say is relatable to local concerns ... it's just as a radical [i.e. someone who gets to the root of matters] I like to focus on the big picture responsible for all the small pictures instead of scratching my head and *****ing about all the little local questions as if it isn't perfectly clear why this is happening.  If you want to bury your head in the sand and pretend that the transfer stations might close because of something unique to Oswego, NY then go ahead and do it ... the problem is capitalism, the distribution of wealth and the priorities of the corporate/political class.  This region is basically run by a rich aristocratic family based in Pulaski, the Barclay family.  They are right-wing Republicans and their local functionaries in the Republican establishment, judges, lawyers, politicians, bankers, corporate people in general have been busy running this region into the ground economically, politically and spiritually for the past 50 years.  The people of Oswego County continue to vote for that so they don't really have a place to complain.  If you put a region in the exclusive control of right-wing Republican aristocratic domination you're going to get a bad economy, an uneducated population, overcrowded prisons and substandard public services.  So with all due respect, I can write at length about good ole Oswego with the best of em'.  If you had eyes and ears for such things, you'd understand that everything I post is applicable to your parochial concerns.  But ya know if you really need nuanced discussion of such fascinating topics as fire department ambulance rentals there's plenty to read on oswegonylion.com.


Posted by hostmaster on Friday, August 08 @ 07:50:19 EDT (90 reads)
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GovernmentAnonymous writes "Obviously Peace is more of anti-American than he is anti-anything else. With his logic, there isn't a country, people, race or ethnicity that is not guilty of atrocities against humanity that is any where near as bad as the US. I never see him blaming anyone but Americans for the woes of the world. Anyone who bothers reading knows that the entire history of mankind has been ripe with war, conquest, and all kinds of nasty stuff. None of that seems to matter to Peace, its not relevant to his view of the great evil that is America. He refuses to acknowledge the good that this country has done, the extremely hard choices its had to make, he focuses on the mistakes only. I think we should all pitch in a few bucks for a one way ticket to Russia for him, we know he likes to drink so as long as he can learn to like vodka he's be all set!

Posted by hostmaster on Friday, August 08 @ 07:50:08 EDT (57 reads)
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 The Grand Mufti of Jersulam

GovernmentAnonymous writes "Haj Mohammed Effendi Amin Al-Husseini was the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem from 1921-1937, when he fled to avoid a British arrest warrant.* 

He opposed the British mandate in Palestine.* 

He hid in the French mandate of Lebanon.*

In the Summer of 1940 and again in February 1941 he submitted to Nazi German Government a draft of a German-Arab declaration of cooperation with the flowing clause -

"Germany and Italy recognize the right of Arab countries to solve the question of Jewish elements, which exist in Palestine and in other Arab countries, as required by the national and ethnic (volkisch) interests of the Arabs, and as the Jewish question was solved in Germany and Italy."*
Emphasis added by underlining and bold type.

He arrived in Germany on 6 November meeting with German Foreign Minister, von Ribbentrop, on the 20th and then with Hitler on the 28th.*

Eventually, he provided Hitler with enough Bosnian and Albanian muslims to fill the ranks of TWO WAFFEN SS DIVISIONS, THE 13TH AND 21ST*, which fought against mostly the Russians with all the fervor of other Waffen SS divisions.

* Information garnered from Wikipedia. Far more information is available for those interested in the truth.

I will not be holding my breath waiting for the Grand Mufti or Hitler to sue me for supposed libel on this issue.

It is no wonder that Peace has no concept of the problems currently existing in the Middle East today nor any where else for that matter. He is completely ignorant of some of the most well established facts about WWII and other times. He should hand his head in shame for his wanton ignorance.

One note about hamas' crimes - an Indian news group filmed terrorists installing a rocket launcher near their hotel in a residential zone. They even got some footage of that rocket being fired a day or so later. They waited until they were back home before releasing the report as such reports lead to the reporters deaths. It is to their credit that they had the guts to show it even then for fear of future terrorist retaliation.

A Spanish reporter having seen something similar was asked if he'd submit a report for airing? He said no as the terrorists would kill him and his crew if they showed the truth.

Have you ever wondered why you almost never see any of the terrorists shooting guns or rockets or lying dead in the as streets? We do get long distance shots of the rockets at times. Because they will kill any and all news personnel who report anything other than civilians wounded and dead, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN! Have you seen any of the the major networks showing the damage to homes, schools, etc. ion Israel? I don't watch them so you'll have to let me know if they even bother to go there to see for themselves.
Doc Bill

Posted by hostmaster on Thursday, August 07 @ 08:42:39 EDT (45 reads)
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 Ok, so Doc is an Unabashed Racist

GovernmentAnonymous writes ""Japs" is an ethnic slur.  "Jews" is not, nor is it a contraction of a nationality, "Jews" is not a contraction.  "Nazis" is not an ethnic slur nor has any connection to ethnicity (though "Kraut" and the rest are ethnic slurs) ... "Nazis" is a descriptive term for a member of a 20th century German political party responsible for aggression and genocide.  Japanese people before, during and after WWII were Japanese ... "Japs" was then and is now a term of contempt and racism.   

Doc writes, "If we do not remember the inhumane actions of people in the past ..."  So what do we call Americans who committed genocide against Native Americans clearing the North American continent of its indigenous civilization from 1607-1890?  What is your short-hand acceptable slur for Americans?  Or Americans who butchered two hundred thousand Filipinos from 1898-1910?  Or Americans who dropped atomic bombs on civilian targets in Japan killing and poisoning tens of thousands?  Or Americans who used chemical warfare and indiscriminate killing against Vietnamese civilians in the 1960s and 1970s?  Or Americans who used depleted uranium and cluster munitions against Iraqi civilians from 2003 onward? 

Or maybe racism is acceptable when describing official enemies who commit atrocities, just not to describe ourselves or our allies when they commit atrocities?  Do the victims of U.S. violence get to use slurs against Americans? ... oh yes, we mustn't speak of "our" atrocities, only "theirs."

Doc's selective atrocity focus is very revealing.  Yeah severed heads suck, so do images of dead Palestinian children.


Posted by hostmaster on Thursday, August 07 @ 08:42:28 EDT (90 reads)
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 The "debate"

GovernmentAnonymous writes "Peace-0
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I still cant get over what a complete fool this peace guy is. So caught up in his little ideology and obviously struggling to keep his BS coherent. While most facts elude him, the ones that do manage to enter the vast empty chasm of his head seem to cause a type of lashing out response that reminds me of a little kid who denies sneaking cookies out of the jar while his face is smeared with chocolate. This same response is so typical of many on the extreme left, when the truth is inconvenient, just change it!  Z

Posted by hostmaster on Wednesday, August 06 @ 06:45:45 EDT (59 reads)
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Should the county give another PILOT agreement to the nuke plants to tax payers detriment?


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