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 Ebola, AIDS Manufactured by Western Pharmaceuticals, US DoD?

GovernmentParanoid writes "Ebola, AIDS Manufactured by Western Pharmaceuticals, US DoD?

Dr. Cyril Broderick, Professor of Plant Pathology

Dear World Citizens:

I have read a number of articles from your Internet outreach as well as articles from other sources about the casualties in Liberia and other West African countries about the human devastation caused by the Ebola virus. About a week ago, I read an article published in the Internet news summary publication of the Friends of Liberia that said that there was an agreement that the initiation of the Ebola outbreak in West Africa was due to the contact of a two-year old child with bats that had flown in from the Congo. That report made me disconcerted with the reporting about Ebola, and it stimulated a response to the “Friends of Liberia,” saying that African people are not ignorant and gullible, as is being implicated. A response from Dr. Verlon Stone said that the article was not theirs, and that “Friends of Liberia” was simply providing a service. He then asked if he could publish my letter in their Internet forum. I gave my permission, but I have not seen it published. Because of the widespread loss of life, fear, physiological trauma, and despair among Liberians and other West African citizens, it is in*****bent that I make a contribution to the resolution of this devastating situation, which may continue to recur, if it is not properly and adequately confronted. I will address the situation in five (5) points:


Posted by hostmaster on Sunday, September 14 @ 03:41:41 EDT (18 reads)
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 How Social Engineers Syphon Human Energy

GovernmentParanoid writes "Cinemas and TVs are spiritual sucking stations

by Zen GardnerHave you ever wondered about all these rousing freedom fighting movies and “outnumbered little guy gets back” scenarios? Don’t they seem counter-productive to the cause of the contained control world we’re being shoe-horned into?In a world of manipulation and social engineering, why would so many heavily promoted dramas regarding rebellion against totalitarian control, and even specifically against a mechanistic, fascist future, be so prevalent?

Think about how you feel after one such moving media event. Spent. You might identify with Braveheart or Leonidas and the 300 and every sinew in your body is pulsing with getting back at the Man. You feel vindicated in your convictions. “Yes, it’s always been this way and it’s so right to stand up to such obvious oppression and fight to the finish! I so relate and feel that!”

Do you see that happening? Why do you think the droids of Orwell’s 1984 were encouraged to participate in the “2 minutes of hate” against the staged enemy of the day?

Think maybe they knew this innate craving to rebel had to be vented? Sure don’t want it directed at the Elite PTBs now, do we?

Another Great Read


Posted by hostmaster on Sunday, September 14 @ 03:41:21 EDT (10 reads)
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 10 Signs That ISIS is a Scripted Psyop

GovernmentParanoid writes "10 Signs That ISIS is a Scripted Psyop

Bernie Suarez
Activist Post

Has the ISIS psyop calmed down a bit? Before it dies out let's examine some incredible ironies and oddities surrounding CIA's ISIS. After all, the ISIS psyop deserves a thorough analysis from every angle, so I thought it appropriate to outline for the sake of humanity. Hopefully, humanity can use the ISIS psyop as a tool for the final or further awakening. It may be wishful thinking, but it is worth exposing every crack and corner of this psyop and let government know that we are not going for it this time.

I declare humanity too intuitive to buy into this psychological operation and hopefully I'm right. So while the core TV-watching, mainstream media-believing community drinks the government Kool Aid, let us get started by pointing out several glaring observations regarding the ISIS psyop.

Glancing ahead, the ISIS kids have knowledge of things that require you to have education, modern technical skills, a little bit of decency, structure, conformity to societal norms and somewhat transparent connection to the outside world. What are these things and what are some of the surreal oddities surrounding ISIS? Let's examine:

1. Professional Camera, Editing Software and Skills

2. Professional Image Editing Software and Skills.

3. Internet Connection, Video Uploading Capabilities, and Social Media Accounts.

4. ISIS Intelligence Operation Apparently Far Superior to CIA/Mossad

5. Super Secret Database Holding the Secret Names and Identities of Their Members

6. Anti Surveillance Technology- Able to Avoid All Existing Surveillance

7. Endless Secret Water, Food, Farming and Meals Supply

8. All American Timing! - Common Enemies, Lucky Gift

9. Complete Ongoing Immunity and Hidden Identities

10. Untraceable Money and Endless Spending


Posted by hostmaster on Thursday, September 11 @ 06:41:53 EDT (30 reads)
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 Oswego's next mayor?

GovernmentAnonymous writes "Any names out there of who may be taking a shot at running for Mayor in the coming time?


Posted by hostmaster on Wednesday, September 10 @ 04:22:24 EDT (46 reads)
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 The Ignorance of Peace

GovernmentAnonymous writes "It is quite obvious that Peace is stunningly ignorant of the Constitution, which included the Amendments. For legal purposes they are commandments. 

Now, being a progressive/socialist Peace believes that the government should be all powerful in all things and that the people should do what they are told. This is the polar opposite of what our Founding Fathers created. The Founders created a Representative Republic, not a democracy. They feared the "tyranny of the majority" and so they provided us with the mechanisms we needed to avoid such tyranny. Unfortunately over the past century or so we have lost sight of that. With the help of a century plus of progressive pressure we have lost personal liberty and freedom because we have allowed the federal government to exceed the limits placed upon it by the Constitution!

Peace and all progressives hate the Second Amendment because it empowers the individual to take responsibility for himself, his family and community while at the same time pushing the governments, especially the federal government into a secondary role. As with just about all progressive issues it is about power and control, nothing else. Oh, sure, they try to terrify us with all their machinations of the evil and horrors of such freedom but this reasoning does not stand up to close scrutiny as is the case with all their claims.

As I posted once before the Founders had more knowledge and understanding of what improvements in weapons could be possible than they had in foreseeing the internet, computers and all the electronic stuff we have today. As I said then, by Peace's reasoning none of those inventions would be covered by anything in the Constitution. The Founders could easily see rapid fire machine guns as the Puckle Gun had been invented at the beginning of the 18th century, 1718 to be exact. The Puckle Gun was a rapid fire weapon. Besides, Da Vinci had previously shown other rapid fire weapons besides tanks, submarines and flying machines. Sure, there were technical problems but the Founders knew that human ingenuity would eliminate those technical problems.

As with others who hate guns in the hands of a free people Peace see all kinds of massacres occurring. By only paying attention to the ObamaMedia Peace has no idea that mass shootings in this country are not rising out of control. He also doesn't know that the overwhelming number of such shootings have occurred in GUN FREE ZONES! To make matters worse for Peace the overwhelming number of the shooters in these cases are LEFT-WING NUT CASES, not right-wing Conservatives!

Those on the left refuse to acknowledge that firearms are use some 2,000,000+ times a year for protection and most of the time the weapons are not fired. Just the sight of a victim with a weapons scares the stool out of these cowardly criminals. As recently reported in the Arizona Republic a 47 year old widow shot an home invader who attacked her. She had to shoot this thug while on the phone with 911 waiting for the police to arrive. The piece of scat did not die and has been in the hospital for quite a while.

Gun haters like Peace probably believe OBama's lies about 40% of gun transfers taking place without a background check. This is typical for progressives to fill up their statistics with extras that do not fit the picture they paint. He based this figure on a small study that was made largely BEFORE BACKGROUND CHECKS WERE REQUIRED! Using the word "transfers" is also deceptive. Transfers not only include sales but inheritances and gifts within families. Remember, again this was mostly before background cheeks were required.

What Obama and Peace don't want most people to know is that as the number of CCW permit carriers increases the number of crimes go down. This is what is happening in Chicago, of all places. Then we have the Police Chief of Detroit telling the citizens to arm themselves because the city is going to hell thanks to progressive politics and the police cannot be counted upon to be there in time. As he said you can plead with the criminal not to hurt you or protect yourself. Oh, and the Police Chief is black. He used to believe that people shouldn't have guns when he was a cop in LA but moved to Maine a few years ago and discovered a completely different culture which changed his mind by the time he took the Detroit job.

Since gun free zones are magnets for evil doers who want to murder as many as possible they will undoubtedly be targets for ISIS jihadists. They do not necessarily have to be returning from the Middle East as we have lots of home grown jihadists right here thanks to our politically correct handling of mosques which are the jihadi schools. So far quite a few have come from Minnesota. Fortunately a couple of them have died over there but there are undoubtedly many more here who could attack schools, malls, restaurants and other places where progressives do not want guns in the hands of persons of good moral character. 

If and when this happens I have no doubt that any jihadi connections will be covered up and the blame will be on Conservatives and the gun. Obama is incapable of saying that anything is jihadi or use any other term to describe violence perpetrated by muslims. Such terminology has been scrubbed from all official doc-uments just as Foot Hood was "work place violence." We all know that he was a lone wolf jihadist bent on sending as many infidels to hell which gaining 72 virgins for himself.

In other news we find a mysterious virus attacking teenagers and children in a number of states. This raises questions about where all the illegal aliens kids have been sent since they were not screened for diseases which are rampant in their home countries. Is there a connection? I do not know and maybe it is only a coincidence but I have little faith in coincidences. 

A black gang beats up a white couple. No racism here, move along!

A 16 year old black girl is beaten up at a school bus stop by other blacks for acting white. No prejudice here, move along!

A Black woman in NYC forces whites out of their apartments and robs them because she is tired of white people moving into the area. No racism here, move along!

A Gang of black teens beats a white grocery store employee unconscious. No racism here, move along.

In other news the first species, the Aldabra banded snail, to become extinct because of global warming has been found alive and well.

A recent report points out that there were larger 50 year warming periods in the middle to late 18th century and mid 19th century with equally large cooling periods!

Our current cooling period may last until 2040.
Doc Bill

Posted by hostmaster on Tuesday, September 09 @ 07:28:21 EDT (21 reads)
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 It Figures

GovernmentAnonymous writes "Peace gets all bent out of shape when the Israelis exercise a little "eminent domain" but he has no problem with Russia invading and annexing parts of Ukraine. Just as with many others soviet sycophants he twists events to make Putin look like the good guy just trying to keep the peace. 

There is no doubt that Russia interfered in Ukraine's internal problems with its former leader who was ousted on charges of corruption. Aside from that he ignored the wishes of the people who wanted closer relations with the west, NOT RUSSIA. 

Putin has basically used the same reasoning as Hitler did in the late 30's referring to Russian speaking people. Of course, after the many purges of the 1930's including the "Silent Holocaust," during which some 12,000,000 Ukrainians were murdered by Stalin and his KGB and/or NKVD storm troopers, Russians moved in to take the place of the murdered Ukrainians. The same is true farther north in Baltic countries. 

Russia has invaded a sovereign nation without cause and is not only occupying, annexing and controlling a significant section of that country but is supporting the criminals fighting the legitimate government. Russia has provided arms, ammunition and heavy weapons to these criminals as well as launching attacks from Russian territory directly into Ukrainian territory in violation of international laws. 

Obama is reneging on the US obligation to protect Ukraine and the Brits (oops, an ethnic slur there) are floundering too based upon the Budapest Memoranda. Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons with the guarantee by the US, Britain and Russia agreed to protect Ukraine from aggression. Russia is directly violating this agreement to protect Ukraine from aggression by being the aggressor. 

Peace's manic contention that Russia is not the aggressor in this situation flies in the face of reality and the facts. Russia is also looking at the Baltic nations it once controlled and may start flexing its muscles there if the US and Britain don't provide Ukraine with the wherewithal to defend its sovereign territory.

China is also looking to take territory in the Pacific now that Obama has so weakened the US and the nut cases in N. Korea will also try to take over the South if they see an opening. But, I have no doubt that Peace believes Obama when he says that the world is safer today than when he took office. Only a brain dead sycophant could possible believe that fantasy.
Doc Bill

Posted by hostmaster on Sunday, September 07 @ 09:35:15 EDT (30 reads)
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 Russia Is Not the Aggressor in Ukraine

GovernmentAnonymous writes "As can be expected, the entire Western discourse over Ukraine completely ignores history, the fact that NATO's eastward expansion after 1989 constitutes Western aggression [in violation of the assurance George Bush Sr. gave Gorbachev that in exchange for German reunification NATO would not expand east] and the fact that the whole "crisis" started when a f***ing coup overthrew Ukraine's government and installed the current pro-western billionaire oligarch ruler.

To hear Obama or any American government official or mainstream media personality discuss Ukraine, one wouldn't know that the current government in Kiev is a coup regime.  And the complete ignorance of Russian history, Russian interests, legitimate Russian concerns and so forth is of course ubiquitous through American government, media, and society.  Russia was almost destroyed twice in the 20th century due to German invasion.  After WWII Russia understandably wanted a buffer zone in Eastern Europe to protect itself from a 3rd German invasion.  Unfortunately Russia was a brutal dictatorship under Stalin and other Soviet leaders and the people of Eastern Europe suffered under tyranny.  Nobody disputes that.  But the basic idea that Russia should have some security after suffering tens of millions of casualties during WWII is lasting and I think obviously a just position.  NATO is a Cold War-era military alliance, hostile to Russia, and its post-1989 eastward expansion, again in violation of informal US-Soviet arrangements, is the real context for what's happening now.

What is Russia supposed to do?  Sit there and let a pro-western billionaire turn Ukraine into a NATO outpost on Russia's border?  For Crimea to become a NATO naval base?  But such considerations would require the average flag-waving American to actually put his/her core nationalist bias aside and actually look at the situation in proper historical context.  The flag waving American would have to set aside his/her government/media manufactured hatred of Russia and demonization of Vladimir Putin and actually think for him/her self.

I strongly urge everyone to read the following article by John Mearsheimer (political scientist, University of Chicago) printed in Foreign Affairs magazine Sept/Oct 2014 issue. 



Posted by hostmaster on Friday, September 05 @ 05:29:45 EDT (46 reads)
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 Mind Control: Orwell, Huxley, and Today’s Reality

GovernmentParanoid writes "Mind Control: Orwell, Huxley, and Today’s Reality

Consider the world of mainstream journalists, in particular TV news anchors. There we have a world with echoes of 1984, where what is said must conform to the party line. Any thoughtcrime – such as an anchor commenting onscreen that he doesn’t buy the official story of 9/11, or he thinks Russia isn’t an aggressor – would be quickly punished by the equivalent of death – expulsion from the world of journalism.

Thus is maintained the Matrix, the story we are told about US benevolence, the existence of democracy, the sacredness of market forces, and all the rest. With control of major media in just a few hands, the party line can be always maintained, and current (or past) events can be interpreted within that framework. To do otherwise, for a news anchor, would be literally unthinkable. Huxley’s Ministry of Truth is at work in our world, but it is invisible, hiding away in the boardrooms of media conglomerates, and behind the doors of the White House press office.

The same kind thoughtcrime regime is operating in other arenas as well, where socially-sensitive topics are concerned. The peer-review process, and the editorial boards of the relevant journals, ensure that thoughtcrimes are suppressed, when it comes to concerns regarding genetic manipulation, pesticides, fracking, pharmaceuticals, radiation levels, etc. Again, the Ministry of Truth is invisible, residing high up in the chain of corporate boardrooms.

Even though our society doesn’t resemble Orwell’s dystopia, his mind control methods are operating in very critical places, where the population’s ‘information’ is generated. And of course we do have universal surveillance, courtesy of the NSA, omnipresent CATV cameras, and cell-phone tracking. Big Brother is with us, but he stays behind the scenes, he sees all, and he decides what stories we will be told about the world by the mainstream media.

Great Read......

Posted by hostmaster on Thursday, September 04 @ 07:06:42 EDT (59 reads)
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 A Compilation

GovernmentAnonymous writes ""The United States military is an organization of paid killers...."     (Peace post of 24 August)


Please identify for me a military which does not fit that description.

I know that Peace and other progressives looking upon the military with distain and try to use them as a global "meal on wheels" while experimenting on them with all their wacky social engineering ideas. All of this in addition to Obama's drastic reductions in their efficiency and effectiveness is putting the US in danger. This is particularly true with regard to Russia and China.

Russia has invaded Ukraine and China is flexing its muscles in the far east even going so far as to aggressively buzz one of our planes in international air space. Neither Russia nor China respect Obama or fear anything he might do and that lack of respect and fear puts the US in danger. Both countries are aggressively advancing their territorial aspirations and conquests. How far this will go under Obama is a good question.

Allowing Obama two more years to destroy the US military might be their plan so when they go full force with their territorial aggression it will be the next president's fault. Will that be Hillary? Hopefully not! However, as I have said many times over the years, I do not minimize the Republicans ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory so anything is possible. 

Assuming the continued downgrading of our military, a Republican president in 2016 and a Russian and/or Chinese military expansion I know the leftist media will blame the Republican president just as they blames Bush for 9/11 when the entire stage for that catastrophe was set by Clinton. Never forget the "Gorelick Wall" which forbad the sharing of vital information between and among the FBI, CIA and other organizations which prevented these organizations from putting all the information together which could have prevented 9/11!

In the convoluted thinking of progressives like Peace the fact that the US has some negative baggage in its history we can never out live those negatives. Everything we have done which is positive, such as saving the world in WWI, WWII and the cold war plus all of our humanitarian efforts can never minimize, much less erase, those negative marks. Any good the US does must always be downgraded with references to the past. 

The same is true with Republican and Conservative individuals and their treatment by progressives. No Republican or Conservative can ever atone for their mistakes. Take Strom Thurmand for example - He opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and was a segregationist. He was never able to live down these negatives from his past regardless of what he did thereafter. On his 100th birthday Trent Lott praised his service to the country and was excoriated by the press. 

On the contrary take Robert Byrd - not only was Byrd as much of a segregationist as Thurmund he too voted against eh Civil Rights Act of 1964. On top of that Byrd was a high ranking official of the KKK for decades and undoubtedly responsible, if not directly then indirectly, for many criminal activities against blacks and other minorities. When Byrd died in 2010, Obama and Clinton praised his service. Neither of them were excoriated for that praise by the leftist press.

Republican Thurmund was never able to live down his past while democrat Byrd was more than able to because the left is most forgiving of its own and never forgives the opposition, Republicans and Conservatives. Just look at the recent racist comments by democrat Filthy Harry Reid while speaking to the Asian Chamber of Commerce. If those things were said by a Republican or Conservative it would shave been headline news for weeks and probably months along with endless demand for that individual's resignation from any and all public and political positions. 

However,  because these things were said by a democrat all that was necessary was for an apology to be made and all is forgiven. Similar racist comments were made by that idiot Joe Biden leading up to Obama's first run at the presidency when he said that Obama was clean, articulate and didn't have a "negro" accent! Of course Biden also said that one has to have an Indian accent to work a 7-11 and other racist and bigoted comments for decades. But, that's just Joe as far as progressives are concerned so he is never held to the same standards as anyone from the right.

In other news we find that ISIS has murdered some 250 Syrians soldiers recently captured forcing them to undress before lining them up and shooting them. This action certainly brings back memories of the nazis. What is Obama's strategy for dealing with ISIS?

Obama announced today, 8/28, that he has no strategy for dealing with ISIS.

Doesn't that just fill you with confidence? We are certainly facing serious trouble and all we get is a vote of "PRESENT" from Obama! So much for electing an empty suit with a resume the thickness of which can hardly be measures in nanometers!

Russell Brand, one of Peace's idols, recently let us all see the real racism that he tries to hide. In a rant from the back seat of a limo he attacked Jason Riley, author of the book Please stop helping us, because he doesn't live in a black neighborhood, doesn't sound like he's black and doesn't act black. To racists such as Brand for blacks to speak eloquently is acting white. That must also apply to Obama since Biden said he doesn't speak with a negro accent, unless he needs to! 

Recently Brand's former spouse, Katy Perry said she doesn't need a man. After dealing with Brand it is no wonder she feels that way. Apparently he notified her that he wanted a divorce via, email, a twit or on Facebook, I forget which. He is most certainly a loser!
Doc Bill


Posted by hostmaster on Friday, August 29 @ 06:07:00 EDT (69 reads)
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 Christianity v Islam

GovernmentAnonymous writes "First I would like to commend those muslims who have voiced their concern over and condemnation of ISIS. It is about time we hear from those who refer to themselves as moderates. However, there are still far too many who remain silent.

In a previous post, 13 August, Peace claims that I see that muslim=bad and Christian=good. Considering what is going on in the world today this isn't too far from being 100% true. I am not giving the way Christianity was forced upon people in the past millennium a pass for their ferocity by any means.

Christ's mandate to his Apostles was to go out and preach the truth. There was no mandate to force people to believe, that was up to each individual to accept of not. Unfortunately, zealots eventually went far beyond what was required. I suppose we could go back to Constantine and his vision of The Cross. Constantine went from a pagan to Christian literally overnight and just as the Pagan Roman Empire persecuted Christians it now persecuted those who were not Christian. Such zealotry is to be condemned no matter where it is found.

Anyway, there is no doubt that the history of persecution BY CHRISTIANS, from Constantine to the Inquisition an beyond, is also to be condemned for its brutality and inhumanity. That fallible humans have misinterpreted the teachings of Christ does not constitute a mark against what Christ stood for. Christianity is a religion of peace - "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." Those who have not lived by this commandment form Christ himself are the evil ones not Christ or the religion founded on his teachings.

With islam there is a difference. First and foremost there is no combining the two as some are trying to do with the development of "Chrislam." Why? Simply because islam does not recognize Christ as the Son of God! That alone is sufficient to keep the two separated. Besides that, according to muslim interpretation of their prophets writings those chapters which come later in the koran hold precedence over the former ones. While some of the former passages speak about "people of the book," that book being the Bible and the people are the Jews and Christians, being believers later passages call for the murder of Jews and Christians who refuse to convert to islam. 

It appears that these are the passages which radical, islamofascist groups such as ISIS, hamas, hezbolla and others use for their justification to eliminate Israel, the Jews, the Christians and all others who refuse to convert.

Christianity's dark past must never be forgotten so we never repeat it and islam's current dark record must also not be forgotten for the same reason. If muslims can bring their religion to the 21st century and reject all those parts of the koran that call for the conquering and conversion of the whole world then their beliefs will be acceptable to the world. There is much good that muslims did in the past. They were the source for much learning while Europeans lived in squaller and ignorance. But, now it seems that muslims live in that same squaller and ignorance while the world has passed them by on all other fronts.

It is up to them to change the image of their beliefs and religion, not us. Until they do so those who are constantly on the attack will be the standard bearers for their beliefs and the vast majority of people on this planet will have no regard for them.

Finally, to the irrational moron who denigrates my comments about ISIS wanting to fly their flag over the White House, just remember that Chuck Hagel recently said that Isis is "beyond anything we've seen." The palestinian flag was recently hoisted atop the Brooklyn Bridge. Texas Representative Ted Poe believes that ISIS and the Mexican drug cartels are communicating and considering the porous nature of the southern border ISIS operatives would have little difficulty sneaking into the country. Texas Governor Perry warns that they may already be here!

Considering that the islamofascist bastard who murdered Foley had a British accent and an American already blew himself up over there and that far too many mosques ion America spout the islamofascist doctrine we must not be blind to the threats of such a group. They are far more capable of doing everything the say while most leaders agree that they already are far stronger and better situated to accomplish their terrorist agenda than al-quaeda was 13 years ago.

So, you can keep your head in the sand believing that they are the JV but the reality of the situation is just the opposite.
Doc Bill

Posted by hostmaster on Friday, August 22 @ 08:15:01 EDT (69 reads)
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GovernmentAnonymous writes "I bet 'ol peace was creamin' his jeans when he heard about the American being beheaded by the ISIS (Islamic) skum. What color are they peace, white? Speaking of color, what white mob has been killing blacks? Fill us all in on that would ya? Oh I see, thats what you wish was happening, not what really is, I get it, you just make it up as you go to match your view of things. Kind of like...a fantasy...a dream(wet in your case)...a vision...a prophesy...a wish.

Posted by hostmaster on Thursday, August 21 @ 06:39:04 EDT (73 reads)
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 Darkness Falls and Seasons Change

GovernmentAnonymous writes ""We'll see summer come again!"

Obama was an important symbol historically, the power structure didn't let him do very much, he was clearly in over his head, or Democrats really are just actors playing a role, they provide a slightly more palatable rhetoric as they bomb and help the rich get richer relative to the rest of the society. 

May there be justice in Ferguson, Missouri [as white mobs continue to murder black males as they've done all through American history.  A police force of mostly whites basically occupying Black American neighborhoods throughout America terrorizing black people ... and militarized now!  Yay!  I love violent white men with guns and badges running around my community!  Makes me feel so safe!  As they fire weapons which violate the Chemical Weapons Convention because "tear gas" is outlawed in war.  But it's okay if you're dispersing peaceful protesters in the streets of America.]

... and other such speeches Obama didn't give. 


P.S.  A "police force" and all the propagandistic treatment of police forces in our society ... akin to our sickening glorification of all things "military."  These people are psychotic white men and anyone else they can hire to run around with guns being violent and authoritarian with people.  Imperialism abroad and police repression at home.  America is a very aggressive nation ... and a police force is still just a mob of gun-toting white guys paid to violently protect the property and power structure in U.S. society Land of the Free and Home of the Brave, Inc.


Posted by hostmaster on Tuesday, August 19 @ 08:20:51 EDT (80 reads)
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 RE: Peace and other things

GovernmentAnonymous writes "Anyone with any basic knowledge of history understands that no civilization which has preceded us can measure up to our standards. For the most part they were all barbaric and condoned standards that the vast majority of us find reprehensible. 

Go back as far as our records indicate and you find slavery, wars of conquest, significant class distinctions and unrest if not warfare and much worse. The Bible is replete with wars of conquest not only by the Israelites but against them. The Egyptians, the Babylonians, the Assyrians, the Philistines, the Greeks, the Romans and others did the same things. Even on this side of the Atlantic things were not better. The Incas conquered other tribes enslaving untold numbers and subjugating the rest. The Mayans did the same as did the Aztecs. In the latter case it is precisely because the Aztecs were such vicious masters that the subjugated tribes joined with the Spanish to overthrow them.

The Indians of what is now the US and Canada were no better. Oh, the econazis would have us believe that the American Indians lived peaceful lives, never bothered other tribes and lived in complete harmony with the land. This is part of the progressive utopian myth and it far from reality. The numerous tribes fought against each other for centuries in their efforts to get as much of the available resources for themselves. They even enslaved members of other tribes. Sure, there was the Iroquois Confederacy which managed to maintain more or less peaceful relationships between the Six Nations as there were other treaties between various tribes some of which lasted for long periods while others were routinely broken.

Even the French and Indians war didn't actually change much in terms of the rivalries between the various Indian Nations. The weapons were, of course, modernized but the tribe were still acting on old grudges with their new alliances. Peace and other no doubt attribute all of the animus in these instances to the white man but there was plenty of animus between tribes to go around. 

It is a fact that the vast majority of native people in the Americas died as a result of diseases that were inadvertently introduced by colonists. I'm not ignoring the purposeful and murderous contamination of tribes by some but by then the greatest damage had been done. One must never lose sight of the fact that Columbus wasn't the first the reach the Americas and though those previous adventurers aren't as well know it was inevitable that the Americas would be discovered.

If Columbus hadn't discovered the Americas when he did someone else would have. Suppose it had taken another 100 years to discover the Americans, would the disastrous effects of disease been less? Far from it. It would have been at least as bad if not worse and combined with an even greater disparity between the technological aspects of the two sides things would have been far worse for the natives. It is unlikely that the Native Americans would have progressed much farther than they were in the 15th century by the 16th century or even later.

I guess Peace is saying that it was the opening of Japan in the mid 1800's that caused them to be the bastards they were a century later. Do not forget that prior to this time Japan was a feudal society with the vast majority of the people having no rights. The various portions of the country were run by the leaders of these domains and their rule was enforced by the Samurai. The Samurai began losing power in the mid 1800's, coinciding with the opening. It was actually a return to the "good ole days" of the Samurai that brought about the atrocities of which I spoke. So, reminiscing about the past isn't good in this case as things were far worse for the average person.

So, when I said that we cannot evaluate the past based upon the values and mores of today Peace and anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of history should understand what I meant. Of course, I do not expect Peace to acknowledge this just as he will not acknowledge his numerous losses to me. But, though is serves little purpose to evaluate past civilizations with today's values, standards and mores we must never forget that it is important to avoid their most reprehensible aspects. 

The fact that all past civilizations had their dark side should never be lost on us today. By ignoring such negative aspects of anything will inevitably result in us repeating them. We see such a repetition in the anti-Semitic rhetoric coming out of Europe and some area here in reference to the current problems in the Middle East. ISIS and other islamofascist groups all have the same objective - the total destruction of Israel, the killing of every Jew and the destruction of America and the subjugation of everyone on the planet to their interpretation of islam. 

In other matters we find that the governor of Texas has been indicted for doing his job. Should this case ever reach the conclusion that the democrats want then every governor AND THE PRESIDENT could be indicted for threatening to veto any legislation. Obama will be in terrible trouble if this comes to pass as he has threatened to veto legislation many times.

As for the whack job who posted some irrational thoughts pretending to be me - I do not hate progressives. I know you cannot understand this as you whole world is filled with hate, especially for things you do not understand. And, there is a hell of a lot that you do not understand. As for the islamofascist bastards coming here it is they who say they will. They are undoubtedly here now waiting to attack. We have an untold number of American Citizens fighting in the Middle East and if and when they return they could begin the fight here. Fortunately one of them, from Florida, blew himself up over there so he would be among them. But, have no doubt many crossing our southern border are not here to work, they are here to cause problems either as members of MS-13 and other gangs or part of the islamofascist goal of destroying the US and flying that black flag over the White House.
Doc Bill

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GovernmentAnonymous writes "Yeah I'll explain it for you (and I do teach so f*** you).  Japan had been isolated for much of its history.  In the middle of the 19th century, the West penetrated Japan and "opened" it, this is pretty standard history (ya know 1853, Commodore Perry).  Now, if you look at paragraph 3 from   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Japan, you'll read

"In the 1860s the Meiji Period began and the new national leadership systematically ended feudalism and transformed an isolated, underdeveloped island country, into a world power that closely followed Western models." [my emphasis added]."

So yes, Japan was emulating the West, learning how to be an imperial power, I knew that when I was like 12, sorry you don't have rudimentary knowledge of Japanese history.  And I never stated anything about the level of Japanese atrocities during this period relative to the West, that is your conjecture.  And no, Japan wouldn't have become an industrial imperial nation if it hadn't been following the Western example.  You'll also read that during the Meiji Restoration,

"the military was modernized, and numerous Western institutions were adopted- including a Western legal system and quasi-parliamentary constitutional government as outlined in the Meiji Constitution ... modelled on the constitution of the German Empire." [German-Japanese relationship dates back to the 1870's, did not begin with Hitler].

Furthermore, under the section titled "Economic Modernization," you'll find:

"Japan's industrial revolution began about 1870 as national leaders decided to catch up with the West. The government built railroads, improved roads, and inaugurated a land reform program to prepare the country for further development. Modern industry first appeared in textiles, including cotton and especially silk, which was based in home workshops in rural areas.  The government inaugurated a new Western-based education system for all young people, sent thousands of students to the United States and Europe, and hired more than 3,000 Westerners to teach modern science, mathematics, technology, and foreign languages in Japan (O-yatoi gaikokujin).In 1871 a group of Japanese politicians known as the Iwakura Mission toured Europe and the USA to learn western ways. The result was a deliberate state-led industrialisation policy to enable Japan to quickly catch up. The Bank of Japan, founded in 1877, used taxes to fund model steel and textile factories. Education was expanded and Japanese students were sent to study in the West."

Still laughing your ass off?

Now, for the Doctor.  First of all I have never lost an argument to you despite your assertions to the contrary pontificating on your own behalf.  

I actually started laughing this morning at the juxtaposition of your continued insistence on referring to "Japs" because of atrocities committed from ca. 1870-1945 with the immediately following statement "With regard to the Philippines, Peace would have us evaluate the actions of the past based on the values and mores of today."  YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!!!!!  So the Japanese empire can be held to whatever standards you impose, but the American empire cannot be burdened with similar standards?  Nowhere have I defended or minimized Japanese atrocities.  The Japanese empire committed horrific crimes as did the Western nations it modelled itself after.  But they were Japanese atrocities, not "Jap" atrocities.  Again, you seem to be missing what I think is a very simple point: imperial nations which commit atrocities whether Japan, the United States, or whomever should not be condemned in racist terms.  It's ok to harshly condemn Japan's treatment of its victims in China, Korea and elsewhere without resorting to racism or ethnic slurs.  Or if you insist on going there, why isn't the standard the same across the board?  American imperialists committed major atrocities during the same period as Japanese imperialism (and American imperialism, beginning with the Native American genocide and extending right through the present, just as a matter of fact, has certainly a longer duration on the planet than the gruesome period of Japanese imperialism.)  Again, you're confusing two different things.  The Nazi SS, the Waffen SS ... those are not ethnic terms, "Jap" is.  You can refer to brutal Japanese imperialists, or use the names they used for their military divisions ... you can do that without resorting to racism or ethnic slur.

Furthermore, I despise ISIS, just to make that clear, I don't know any decent human regardless of political philosophy who regards ISIS as anything other than a brutal, heinous, awful organization.  Hamas, which I am critical of for its religious orientation, some of its crude formulations regarding Israel, its brutality against its own people, its stupid counterproductive violent tactics, some actions which have been terroristic in nature [though it is facing a US-backed Israeli state that if we're going to be serious has its own terror policies].  But Hamas is not ISIS.  Doc's attempt to lump in Palestinian resistance and struggle for national liberation with ISIS is unjustified in my view.

And I don't wish to come up with a slur for Americans.  That's my point, we can condemn crimes against humanity, imperial slaughter and the like without the racism.  [though "Yankee" seems to be somewhat mild compared to "Jap"]



Posted by hostmaster on Friday, August 15 @ 07:03:16 EDT (64 reads)
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GovernmentAnonymous writes "Quote from Peace's last rant......"Ok, so when Japan did it's east Asian imperial thing in the decades leading up to WWII attempting to emulate the Western imperial powers after the "opening of Japan" in the late 19th century". Could you please explain just wtf that is supposed to mean you moron?  LMAO   Apparently Japan was just emulating the west, so its not as bad as the west doing it?  Japan wouldnt have done it if the west hadn't already?  LMFAO, thank god you don't actually teach.

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