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 Done Waitin'

CommunityFlagMan writes "
Thank You ROF for your article and dedication to our community.

Your articles have undoubtably turned many residents with negative/hopeless attitudes into Believers. The change in our local goverment format should be at the forefront of our efforts, strategically the wisest first move. I'm behind you all the way. A Liason to "The People"

A close friend once told me "children need to 'see it' in order to believe it. Leaders believe it BEFORE they see it. Leaders & Believers working collectively to better our community WILL get the job done, just as it has in many other successful communities.Leaders don't wait for other people to give them permission to do something. They just do it.

Our 20/20 Vision that started 7 years ago (+/-) initiated by our community development office, paid for by the people, a few hand picked set of volunteers to form one committe. How far did that go? My first throw went further.

So what's kept Oswego from moving forward with community development/community involvent? One word: FEAR. Fear of rejection. Fear of others opinions. Fear of trying new things. Fear of not being perfect. Enjoying our comfort zone (average), this is Mayor Randy Bateman's biggest problem which unfortunately effects us all.

If the community pushes forward, (the passionate, responsible, doer, believer/ people) the others will flock right into the lap of a full blown community development movement, and not until. Man's natural intinct is medicority, time to come above it and start finding the way. It takes courage to go against the crowd and you ROF are a true individual, I'm sure the battles you're fighting will be won. It sounds as though you're onto who you can/cannot trust, but trust YOUR ideas/principles are socially supported by many.

Those who you've "come up against" are weak, fearful or ego minded, in my book. They take the path of least resistance. My guess? They're moving with the herd and it's probably not their true goals, their visions or their choices but their own sheer gutlessness. They don't fall into the Leader or Believer categories, they're Followers-the worse kind to have in control. 

Over the last few months, I've sensed a change talking with people, their ears are up and they're realizing they have control over our city's destiny. I think it's crucial to get the community involved. We all have ideas of what Oswego could be like. And many share the same ideas. From what I hear, most people can be trusted to create a good design and/or help implement a plan for Oswego, we/they just need the tools and the facts.

With all due respect to those working on issues and "a plan" behind the scenes, growth decisions are suppose to reflect the public interest. Historically, Oswego has undergone community development with ideas hijacked from the development offices themselves. All good planning begins with public involvement, so I'm hoping this is the next strategic step. We as citizens cannot say "well, the plan looks gook, now we can relax" we must encourage more citizen involvement and I don't think we'll be looking too hard to find it.

Last post I wrote on IO, I addressd Oswego residents harboring negative attitudes and other residents who believe they are on a higher realm than the others below-  how this has damaged Oswego for many years-keeping our small community divided. You shared my opinion in your recent article: >>>>" those that believe to be the "elite" in Oswego will not come out as winners as many fight to make so many changes for Oswego to move forward. I have no time for people with this type of attitude.<<<<<<
(Well Put)

Again, bringing the community together in a community development project (should I say overhaul?) will bring many residents onto the same page. A community where we know each other, take care of each other (as Kittykipper puts it) -and in genreal, believe that we are all people of worth and "in this" together.

Maybe a year into our future, after I've had the great pleasure of SHAKING YOUR hand, we'll be SHAKING OUR HEADS over the amount of people/and types of people who have become involved in bettering our community. Thank you again ROF for remaining constant and sharing your timeless principles, traits of a true leader. Your articles have taught many people to liberate the leaders within themselves, I believe extraordinary things will begin to happen - "The People" are done waitin'

FlagMan







"

Posted by hostmaster on Wednesday, November 19 @ 04:56:36 PST (56 reads)
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 Re: Big M

StuffAnonymous writes "If you don't like the Big M's check cashing procedures get direct deposit or go to the flicking bank. 
Please...SHUT UP!  Big M can't redesign the dang store to please complainig check cashers. They do a favor by cashing  checks. Geez... You sound like one chronic complainer.  I'd bet you'd complain about the color of the ticket if you won the lotto."

Posted by hostmaster on Wednesday, November 19 @ 04:55:59 PST (46 reads)
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 Places for low income people

CommunityAnonymous writes "We need places for low income single people can afford.This town is so money hungry they don't care about anything else.MONEY MONEY.thats it.I have also lived alone once,and could barely afford it.I worked full time,and know help for DSS.I couldn't get HUD ,because I had no children,well I wasn't going out to have a baby so I could get some help.Everything here is all about the damn college kids.They take all our parking spaces,and treat us like crap.When are we going to take our town back.I have also seen so many black women,and white boys with babies,What in hell is with that?I'm talking Kids here.Don't they know about BIRTH CONTROL.Thats why we are in the shape we are in.We workers are paying for these kids to have kids.Grow up if you want to have kids/sex.If you can't afford,don't do it.Get a JOB,and pay for your own babies."

Posted by hostmaster on Wednesday, November 19 @ 04:55:24 PST (45 reads)
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 Places for low income people

CommunityAnonymous writes "We need places for low income single people can afford.This town is so money hungry they don't care about anything else.MONEY MONEY.thats it.I have also lived alone once,and could barely afford it.I worked full time,and know help for DSS.I couldn't get HUD ,because I had no children,well I wasn't going out to have a baby so I could get some help.Everything here is all about the damn college kids.They take all our parking spaces,and treat us like crap.When are we going to take our town back.I have also seen so many black women,and white boys with babies,What in hell is with that?I'm talking Kids here.Don't they know about BIRTH CONTROL.Thats why we are in the shape we are in.We workers are paying for these kids to have kids.Grow up if you want to have kids/sex.If you can't afford,don't do it.Get a JOB,and pay for your own babies."

Posted by hostmaster on Wednesday, November 19 @ 04:55:20 PST (27 reads)
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 P&C Closing

CommunityAnonymous writes "Go to Walmart in Fulton.  It's great!  I NEVER wait in line!  I'm in and out.  I also never have a problem with parking.  You all are correct about Price Chopper.  It is filthy!  The people that work for them are filthy, too!"

Posted by hostmaster on Wednesday, November 19 @ 04:54:07 PST (53 reads)
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 A Reader

GovernmentAnonymous writes "
THE LAW IS THE LAW!
This is one of the better e-mails I have received in a long time! I hope this makes its way around the USA several times over!!!!!
So Be It!

THE LAW IS THE LAW


So 'if' the US government determines that it is against the !
Law for the words 'under God' to be on our money, then,
So be it.

And 'if' that same government decides that the
'Ten Commandments'
Are not to be used in or on a
Government installation, then,
So be it.

I say, 'so be it,' because I would like to be a
Law abiding US citizen.

I say, 'so be it,' because I would like to think that
Smarter people than I are in positions to make good decisions.

I would like to think that those people have the
American public's best interests at heart.
BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I'D LIKE?

Since we can't pray to God, can't Trust in God and cannot post His Commandments in Government buildings
, I don't believe the Government and its
Employees should participate in the
Easter and Christmas
Celebrations which honor the God
That our government
Is eliminating from many facets of American life.

I'd like my mail delivered on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter. After all, it's just another day.

I'd like the ' US Supreme Court to be in session on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter as
Well as Sundays.' After all, it's just another day.

I'd like the Senate and the House of Representatives
To not have to worry about getting home for the 'Christmas Break.' After all it's just another day.

I'm thinking that a lot of
my taxpayer dollars could be saved, if all government offices & services would
Work on Christmas, Good Friday & Easter. It shouldn't cost any overtime since those would be just like any other
Day of the week to a government that is trying to be 'politically correct.'
In fact....

I think that
our government should work on Sundays (initially set aside for worshipping God...) because, after all, our government says that
It should be just another day....
What do you all think????

If this idea gets to enough people,
maybe our elected
Officials will stop giving in to the 'minority opinions'
And begin, once again, to represent the 'majority'
Of ALL of the American people.
SO BE IT...........

Please Dear Lord,

Give us the help needed to keep you in our country!
'Amen' and 'Amen'
Touche!

These are definitely things I never thought about but
From now on, I will be sure to question those in
Government who support these changes.

At the top, it says
'I hope this makes its way around
The USA several times over!!!!!'
Let's see that it does.

"

Posted by hostmaster on Wednesday, November 19 @ 04:53:36 PST (7 reads)
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 Put an End To It

maggie_t writes "
I need your help. There is a resolution on the agenda of the November 18th Board of Education meeting (that’s tonight!) to appoint a former employee to the position of Director of Grants and Partnerships. This appointment is wrong on so many levels, it is difficult to know where to begin. The taxpayers of this district sent a very clear message to the board early last summer, not once, but twice! No unnecessary spending!! Dave White and his cronies didn’t listen in May and they didn’t listen in June. Now they are ignoring the message sent by the people and supported by state law, which limits spending under a contingency budget, by creating an unnecessary position for a friend. Let me tell you a little bit about the search process for this position. A notice was put up on the cork bulletin board on a wall at the Ed Center and it may have been advertised on the district website. So the only people who even knew about the position were those who read our bulletin board on East First Street or happened upon the Employment page of our website (we are one of 727 districts in the state). Is it any surprise that there was only one applicant for this position? But then, why would the district need to advertise to get the most qualified candidates if the position was created specifically for a particular person - the one person who applied for the job? Now, Sean Madden might have told some of you that they don’t have any choice but to hire this person for this position because of an impending lawsuit. Well, to put it bluntly, that’s just crap. The district has corrected a mistake that it made. In addition, the board agreed to provide this former employee with full health insurance coverage (at a cost of over $13,000 per year to the taxpayers) regardless of whether this person is hired for this new position or not. That should be the end of it. Sean is just using this excuse to justify something that he knows is wrong. This is not the first time that he has used his power to benefit his friends and it won’t be the last. Last spring, the superintendent suggested that the board eliminate a director’s position in the area of central administration because we have support for this area in other ways now. Three years ago, when the position was held by someone not in his favor, Dave White argued vehemently that this position should be eliminated. Last spring, he and Sean argued to keep the position. Was it because they had realized that the position was needed? Not likely, since neither of them knows anything at all about education. No, the reason they argued to keep the position was because it was held by one of their friends. They don’t eliminate the positions of their friends, period. In fact, they go out of their way to create new and unnecessary positions for their friends. The needs of the students in the district for another science teacher or a kindergarten teacher or aides to help in the classroom are not important. What is important is that they take care of their friends.


I could go on and on, but I will save it for another day. What I need now is to explain why I need your help. This board will not listen to reason. They will not listen to law. They will not listen to the state. The only thing that will cause Dave White to stop and think about what he does is public perception. For him, it is all about politics. If enough people come to this meeting and speak out against the cronyism that is going on and this misuse of taxpayer funds, he just may reconsider to protect his political standing in the community. I know that there are many people in the district who would like to speak out against the things that Dave does, but they have all learned in the past three years that if you cross Dave White, he will get even. I’ve seen it and experienced it many times myself. What the board is doing now is wrong. If they get away with it with no heat from the public, they will only continue to use their positions and your money to benefit themselves (Sean Madden wants you to pay for him to go to a conference in San Diego, more later) as well as their relatives and friends (I can’t even begin to list them all). This needs to stop and it needs to stop now. If you could come and speak, that would be wonderful. If you don’t feel comfortable speaking then just being there to show support for those who do speak would help us to send the message that we are tired of them using their positions and our money to benefit their family and friends. The meeting is at 7 pm in Faust Theater at the High School. If you are tired of people using your money and your trust to benefit themselves and their friends rather than the students and this community, please consider coming.


Maggie Tiballi

"

Posted by hostmaster on Wednesday, November 19 @ 04:50:31 PST (45 reads)
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 Snow removal

CommunityAnonymous writes "Winter came early this year, and you dont want to take your shovels out yet.. then get ahold of chris and he will be more than happy to do it for you!!



315-343-1662
"

Posted by hostmaster on Wednesday, November 19 @ 04:49:32 PST (5 reads)
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 Re;Lost Purse

Anonymous writes "Found.  Thank you."

Posted by hostmaster on Wednesday, November 19 @ 04:49:12 PST (3 reads)
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 Snow Blowing Special

CommunityAnonymous writes "
$500.00 For whole season of 3"+ for Snow Blowing & shoveling.  20 + Years experience, local, Insured and licensed  Only awarding 10 contracts for City and suburbs of Oswego.
Call
Steve
806-7641
"

Posted by hostmaster on Wednesday, November 19 @ 04:48:29 PST (3 reads)
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 Found the purse

Anonymous writes "Please disregard posting on lost purse.  I found it.  Thanks again."

Posted by hostmaster on Wednesday, November 19 @ 04:48:04 PST (3 reads)
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 Yes Flagman, It Is Time.

Anonymous writes "Flagman, your are absolutely correct. It is time to step off the web and become public to implement a certain plan(s). The web is fine to try to reach those that can't find the courage to become involved and become public but you can only get so far on the web. I have been writing on Inside Oswego since last year, since I was introduced to it from a family member but I have also become public in the eyes of some ( those that I can trust ) and have been up against the Mayor, Chief Dehm, judges, and
state
legislators, to name a few. My biggest goal I have been trying to accomplish is to change our form of City government. Oswego has to move up with the times. I can't do it alone and have had so many wonderful people helping me to make this change. Believe me when I say it isn't easy.Oswego has been through so much in the last several years and then some and because of this my biggest concern is changing the Mayor-City Council form of government by introducing a City manager to work beside the Mayor and the Council. If this changes we will then have the power to change the City Charter, through the state. A few roadblocks...
( And I'm still working on this. ) It is not easy. I am also working on other plans that I believe would benefit Oswego in a very positive way. You are correct in saying that those that believe to be the "elite" in Oswego will not come out as winners as many fight to make so many changes for Oswego to move forward. I have no time for people with this type of attitude. I have always believed that no one is better than another and I have always stirred my family in that direction. We are all created equal and the labels need to disappear or we will end up getting nowhere. With the introduction of a city manager, we would eliminate nepotism, corruption through favoritism and much more. I believe you understand what I'm trying to say. I apologize to you for openly communicating with you this way, but I have an extended family member that is signed into Inside Oswego and I have been told by him that's why I haven't been successful in signing on, therefore I have to make use of my only way of speaking to those I want to respond to. As you have shared with me through your comments my only avenue is to write an article openly. I appreciate what you have shared with me and I respect what you have to say and I am in total agreement with you. I know in the near future I will meet you personally and then I will have the great pleasure of shaking your hand. Until that time let us all keep busy. A pleasure once again to you, Flagman. 
Keep writing on Inside Oswego for I do see that many like what you have to share.
Again Inside Oswego I thank you and to the readers.

Ps: A few grassroots orgs. have begun here in Oswego since late Spring. As I have said before, things are looking up which means a brighter future for Oswego. So many are busy, working in all directions, with the end result being a productive and prosperous city for all. We are winng some battles but we need to win the war. ( I am a WWII Vet and there aren't many of us left. ) I know all about winning wars.  

retiredoldfart (rof)  "

Posted by hostmaster on Sunday, November 16 @ 01:25:04 PST (80 reads)
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 re'obama lover

CommunityAnonymous writes "your the only racist peice of trash.i bet your a wigger with a couple of black kids of your own.bush is as far from narcissistic as you can gwet loser.he lives by god not allah like you and the other muslim s***** causeing all the trouble in this world.go back under the rock you came from with obama loser.your the disgust of society and everyone like you.and like i said,well see how you s*****bags like him in a year.your the lazy s***** that wants handouts,and not have to work.like all upstanding white people do.we know we have to work hard for our money,not deal drugs,scam welfare and sit on our ass talking about some racist,radical loser like obama that you think is going to fix everything by giving you money and raiseing our taxes.you need to get a life loser,and a job.
"

Posted by hostmaster on Sunday, November 16 @ 01:23:51 PST (57 reads)
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 Re: Rebuttal to Obama Supporter

GovernmentAnonymous writes "Well, you might still have your teeth, but so what ?  You're still a racist piece of crap!  The economy started tanking AFTER Bush became president.  We had a surplus when Clinton left office.  Now go take a nice long shower and get the putrid stench off of you.  Soap is cheap.  Go to the dollar store and get some.  I believe they also sell deodorant.  You may need to stock up.  Bye, Pepe LaPew."

Posted by hostmaster on Sunday, November 16 @ 01:23:32 PST (39 reads)
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 planning groups

CommunityAnonymous writes "Rof-
Could you post information about how to get involved with the planning groups?
Thank you!
"

Posted by hostmaster on Sunday, November 16 @ 01:22:58 PST (98 reads)
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